In a recent interview, Dr. Ben Carson shared that former President Donald Trump attributed his tireless energy to a single source: God.

Speaking on Breitbart News Daily, Carson described what he sees as a spiritual transformation in Trump, crediting it with his renewed focus on religious liberty and growing support for Christian communities, as Breitbart reports.

Carson, who now serves as the national adviser for nutrition, health, and housing at the U.S. Department of Agriculture, recalled a private conversation he had with Trump at Mar-a-Lago following Trump’s latest election victory. The meeting took place in the transition office, away from cameras and public gatherings.

During this quiet moment, Carson asked the former president how he continues to operate with such drive and intensity despite being 78 years old. According to Carson, many people at that age are slowing down, not revving up their schedules like Trump.

“You’re 78 years old,” Carson recalled asking. “Most people that age are kind of settling back in the rocking chair, and you’re going like crazy all day and all night. Where are you getting all this energy from?”

One-Word Answer Reveals Spiritual Shift

Trump’s response, according to Carson, was a single word: “God.” That answer, Carson emphasized, represented a notable shift in Trump’s spiritual outlook compared to just a year or two ago. “I don’t think he would have said that a year or two ago,” he told the host, Mike Slater.

Carson said the former president’s posture and demeanor have changed significantly in recent times. He attributed this transformation in part to an event publicly known as the “Butler incident,” though further details were not given in the interview.

“You look at the difference in President Trump since the Butler incident,” Carson said. “And that’s largely because I think his faith has increased.”

Increased Focus on Religious Liberty

Beyond just personal faith, Carson said Trump’s actions show a heightened focus on defending religious freedom and protecting Christians from perceived social and political marginalization. “He’s been very supportive of religious liberty,” Carson said, “and is very much interested in the attacks on Christians in particular and has been incredibly supportive of that community.”

Carson portrayed this as part of a broader trend he’s observing within government itself — a quiet but expanding spiritual revival. His comments suggest that what began as a personal transformation may now be influencing policy and leadership at higher levels.

“Revival at all levels, from the top to the bottom,” Carson remarked, illustrating how he believes this spiritual change is progressing across the political landscape.

Carson Sees Faith-Based Momentum Growing

During the same interview, host Mike Slater commented on what he perceived as a growing spiritual emphasis among national figures. Carson agreed, noting a clear difference from his own experience running for president in 2016. Back then, he felt like one of the only outspoken Christians in politics.

Now, Carson said, the tone has changed. “I think you’re going to see it increase,” he noted, projecting that more government leaders may begin expressing similar faith-based motivations in both their rhetoric and policies.

“It is very nice to see,” Carson added, signaling optimism about the direction of leadership values in recent years.

Private Conversation Offers Public Insight

Though the conversation between Carson and Trump was private, Carson chose to speak about it publicly, seeing it as a reflection of a larger trend worth noting. He described the moment as a simple but important indicator of Trump’s evolving mindset and its potential impact on national policy and culture.

“We were at Mar-a-Lago, and just he and I were talking,” Carson explained, underscoring the informal nature of their exchange. But he said its takeaway carries significant meaning for those evaluating Trump's current approach to leadership, especially within faith-based circles.

As Trump continues to campaign and shape policy discussions, Carson believes his strengthened religious convictions may play a more pronounced role — not just in his own decision-making, but in setting an example for others in government to follow.